https://tests.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Bitcoin_Wiki_talk:Governance&feed=atom&action=historyBitcoin Wiki talk:Governance - Revision history2024-03-28T08:55:04ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.30.0https://tests.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Bitcoin_Wiki_talk:Governance&diff=51525&oldid=prevTaras: Taras moved page Talk:Wiki governance to Bitcoin talk:Governance2014-09-30T20:29:18Z<p>Taras moved page <a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wiki_governance&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Wiki governance (page does not exist)">Talk:Wiki governance</a> to <a href="/wiki/Bitcoin_Wiki_talk:Governance" title="Bitcoin Wiki talk:Governance">Bitcoin talk:Governance</a></p>
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</table>Nanotubehttps://tests.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Bitcoin_Wiki_talk:Governance&diff=37003&oldid=prevGmaxwell: restructure my comment2013-04-14T20:44:26Z<p>restructure my comment</p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: Gmaxwell, [https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=157857.msg1671863#msg1671863 I have replied] to your bitcointalk post a while back. I do believe that some core rules are required ... hopefully we never need to enforce them. Do you disagree with any of the rules proposed here? (Please take the answer to the bitcointalk thread). [[User:Ripper234|Ripper234]] ([[User talk:Ripper234|talk]]) 04:14, 4 April 2013 (GMT)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: Gmaxwell, [https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=157857.msg1671863#msg1671863 I have replied] to your bitcointalk post a while back. I do believe that some core rules are required ... hopefully we never need to enforce them. Do you disagree with any of the rules proposed here? (Please take the answer to the bitcointalk thread). [[User:Ripper234|Ripper234]] ([[User talk:Ripper234|talk]]) 04:14, 4 April 2013 (GMT)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::* Rules which will apparently not be enforced on other contributors</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::* Rules which will apparently not be enforced on other contributors</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::It all just seems like really bad mojo to me, perhaps not likely to cause grave harm but also not the sort of thing needed to help a nascent wiki grow. We should have a community here collaborating as a primary norm enforcement mechanism. I have never seen a wiki gain large public activity when rules came before community enforcement. You're obviously not going to do all the work of making this Wiki useful yourself— none of us will— but something about heavy handed governance seems to make people look at the wiki as someone elses problem rather than a personal responsibility.--[[User:Gmaxwell|Gmaxwell]] ([[User talk:Gmaxwell|talk]]) 20:39, 14 April 2013 (GMT)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::It all just seems like really bad mojo to me, perhaps not likely to cause grave harm but also not the sort of thing needed to help a nascent wiki grow. We should have a community here collaborating as a primary norm enforcement mechanism. I have never seen a wiki gain large public activity when rules came before community enforcement. You're obviously not going to do all the work of making this Wiki useful yourself— none of us will— but something about heavy handed governance seems to make people look at the wiki as someone elses problem rather than a personal responsibility.--[[User:Gmaxwell|Gmaxwell]] ([[User talk:Gmaxwell|talk]]) 20:39, 14 April 2013 (GMT)</div></td></tr>
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</table>Gmaxwellhttps://tests.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Bitcoin_Wiki_talk:Governance&diff=37001&oldid=prevGmaxwell: re2013-04-14T20:39:03Z<p>re</p>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::It all just seems like really bad mojo to me, perhaps not likely to cause grave harm but also not the sort of thing needed to help a nascent wiki grow. We should have a community here collaborating as a primary norm enforcement mechanism. I have never seen a wiki gain large public activity when rules came before community enforcement. You're obviously not going to do all the work of making this Wiki useful yourself— none of us will— but something about heavy handed governance seems to make people look at the wiki as someone elses problem rather than a personal responsibility.--[[User:Gmaxwell|Gmaxwell]] ([[User talk:Gmaxwell|talk]]) 20:39, 14 April 2013 (GMT)</ins></div></td></tr>
</table>Gmaxwellhttps://tests.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Bitcoin_Wiki_talk:Governance&diff=36630&oldid=prevRipper234 at 04:14, 4 April 20132013-04-04T04:14:23Z<p></p>
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</table>Ripper234https://tests.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Bitcoin_Wiki_talk:Governance&diff=36480&oldid=prevGmaxwell at 20:06, 29 March 20132013-03-29T20:06:44Z<p></p>
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</table>Gmaxwellhttps://tests.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Bitcoin_Wiki_talk:Governance&diff=36367&oldid=prevRipper234 at 01:35, 25 March 20132013-03-25T01:35:37Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>A personal request - please discuss this over at this bitcointalk thread instead of over here.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>A personal request - please discuss this over at <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=157857.0 </ins>this bitcointalk thread<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">] </ins>instead of over here.</div></td></tr>
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</table>Ripper234https://tests.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Bitcoin_Wiki_talk:Governance&diff=36366&oldid=prevRipper234: Created page with "A personal request - please discuss this over at this bitcointalk thread instead of over here. I just hate mediawiki discussions, and I still haven't figured out how to get em..."2013-03-25T01:35:26Z<p>Created page with "A personal request - please discuss this over at this bitcointalk thread instead of over here. I just hate mediawiki discussions, and I still haven't figured out how to get em..."</p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div>A personal request - please discuss this over at this bitcointalk thread instead of over here.<br />
I just hate mediawiki discussions, and I still haven't figured out how to get email alerts when someone replies to me, so I'll probably never see your message if you add it here, as opposed to bitcointalk.<br />
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[[User:Ripper234|Ripper234]] ([[User talk:Ripper234|talk]]) 01:35, 25 March 2013 (GMT)</div>Ripper234